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01/25/2024 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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+= HB 89 DAY CARE ASSIST./CHILD CARE GRANT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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Heard & Held
HOUSE BILL NO. 89                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the day care assistance program                                                                        
     and the child care grant program; and providing for an                                                                     
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:34:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  noted that there  was a  proposed committee                                                                    
substitute for the bill.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson  MOVED  to ADOPT  the  proposed  committee                                                                    
substitute  for HB  89,  Work  Draft 33-LS0518\S  (Bergerud,                                                                    
1/3/24).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:35:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Julie Coulombe,  Sponsor,  introduced HB  89                                                                    
and thanked the committee for  hearing the bill. She and her                                                                    
staff had  updated the  presentation on  the bill  to answer                                                                    
questions that  had arisen  in the  prior year.  She relayed                                                                    
that  the governor  had stated  that he  wanted make  Alaska                                                                    
more affordable for  families and she shared  in his vision.                                                                    
In  order  to accomplish  the  vision,  there needed  to  be                                                                    
affordable  child  care  that was  accessible  to  families.                                                                    
Child  care  was a  workforce  issue  and  if it  were  more                                                                    
available  and affordable,  many Alaskans  would be  able to                                                                    
return  to  work and  become  more  reliable workers.  Young                                                                    
families were  leaving the  state for  many reasons  such as                                                                    
housing   challenges,    education,   training,    and   the                                                                    
availability  of child  care.  The lack  of  child care  was                                                                    
estimated  to   cost  Alaskan  employers  $152   million  in                                                                    
employee absences  and turnover,  but she  thought it  was a                                                                    
solvable issue.  She relayed that  HB 89  was a call  to the                                                                    
private sector  to view  child care  as an  employee benefit                                                                    
and a call to the public  sector to update the ways in which                                                                    
families were  supported as well  as the way that  the child                                                                    
care industry was regulated.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  indicated that she was  a member of                                                                    
the governor's  Child Care Task  Force and she had  heard of                                                                    
the  problems surrounding  the child  care  sector. She  had                                                                    
spoken with  private businesses that  were open  and willing                                                                    
to help employees  with child care but  were uncertain where                                                                    
to start.  She had  met with child  care providers  that had                                                                    
shared with her  the ways in which  regulations hindered the                                                                    
businesses and  prevented the businesses from  thriving. The                                                                    
recommendations that came from  the task force addressed the                                                                    
concerns. She noted  that HB 89 moved in  the same direction                                                                    
as the recommendations of the task force.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  shared that she was  recently asked                                                                    
by a  conservative colleague why  it was  the responsibility                                                                    
of  the  government to  provide  child  care. She  had  been                                                                    
wrestling with the  same question and remarked  that she did                                                                    
not think  it was  the responsibility  of the  government to                                                                    
provide child care; however, the  government could create an                                                                    
environment that  encouraged businesses to offer  child care                                                                    
benefits, make  it easier  to start  a child  care business,                                                                    
and  encourage   local  communities  to   create  innovative                                                                    
choices for  different kinds of  care. The  government could                                                                    
also assist parents  in accessing child care  and enable the                                                                    
parents to grow the household income.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  emphasized that the bill  would not                                                                    
propose to  spend a significant  amount of  short-term money                                                                    
on the situation, but it  proposed a long-term incentive for                                                                    
the communities  to solve the problem.  She highlighted that                                                                    
women comprised  of about 60  percent of  Alaska's workforce                                                                    
and the  state was in  the top 10  percent in the  nation in                                                                    
terms  of  working  women.  As  long  as  Alaska's  housing,                                                                    
energy, and  grocery prices  continued to  increase, parents                                                                    
would  need to  work harder  in  order to  stay afloat.  She                                                                    
urged that it was time for  the legislature to work with the                                                                    
governor and act on the pressing  issue of child care in the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:39:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELEILIA  PRESTON,  STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE  JULIE  COULOMBE,                                                                    
offered  the   sectional  analysis   (copy  on   file).  She                                                                    
explained that Section 1 through  Section 21 were concerning                                                                    
the  tax credits  and were  not necessary  to go  through in                                                                    
detail. She  indicated that Section 1  related to offsetting                                                                    
costs  eligible for  insurance tax  credits, the  income tax                                                                    
education credits,  the oil and  gas producer  education tax                                                                    
credits, the property tax education  credits, the mining tax                                                                    
education credits,  and the floating fisheries  business tax                                                                    
credits.  She  noted  that  Sections   2  and  forward  were                                                                    
intended  to  increase  the maximum  individual  tax  credit                                                                    
limit  from  $1  million  to $3  million.  She  stated  that                                                                    
Section  3 would  add a  new section  to adjust  the maximum                                                                    
individual tax credit limit every five years for inflation.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Preston  continued to Section  22 and Section  23, which                                                                    
were  both  regarding  conforming language  to  change  "day                                                                    
care"  to  "child  care." Section  24  contained  conforming                                                                    
language  to child  care and  also stated  that the  monthly                                                                    
household  income limit  for an  eligible family  to receive                                                                    
assistance was  105 percent of  the median  household income                                                                    
in  Alaska,  adjusted  for family  size.  She  read  through                                                                    
Section 25 through Section 38 as follows:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section    25:    Amends   AS    47.25.011    regarding                                                                    
     administrative  costs   of  program   contractors  with                                                                    
     conforming  language  to   "child  care."  Section  26:                                                                    
     Amends  47.25.021 with  conforming  language from  "day                                                                    
     care" to "child care."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 27:  Amends 47.25.031 with  conforming language                                                                    
     from "day care" to "child care."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  28:  Amends   AS  47.25.041  Contributions  of                                                                    
     Parents.  This  section  provides that  the  parent  or                                                                    
     guardian contribution  for child care  assistance shall                                                                    
     not be  greater than 7%  of the family  monthly income.                                                                    
     This was a recommendation  of the Governor's Task Force                                                                    
     on Child Care                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 29:  Amends 47.25.051 with  conforming language                                                                    
     from "day care" to "child care."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  30: Adds  new  subsection  AS 47.25.051(c)  to                                                                    
     require the department  to use a market  rate study for                                                                    
     each  region served  by the  program  to determine  the                                                                    
     actual amount of assistance available for assistance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section   31:  Amends   47.25.071(b)  with   conforming                                                                    
     language from "day care" to "child care."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section   32:  Amends   47.25.071(g)  with   conforming                                                                    
     language from "day care" to "child care."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  33: Adds  new  subsection  AS 47.25.071(i)  to                                                                    
     allow  the department  to award  grants  to child  care                                                                    
     facilities that are the  highest performing and highest                                                                    
     quality.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  34:  Amends  AS  47.25.095(2)  to  update  the                                                                    
     definition  of  "child  care facility"  to  include  an                                                                    
    establishment recognized by the federal government.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 35:  Amends AS  47.25.095(3) to  add conforming                                                                    
     language to  the definition of "child  care" (from "day                                                                    
     care").                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 36: Repealer section                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section   37:  Adds   uncodified   law  directing   the                                                                    
     department   to  submit   the  child   care  assistance                                                                    
     program,  as  amended  by this  bill,  to  the  federal                                                                    
     government for approval.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section   38:   Adds   uncodified   law   providing   a                                                                    
     conditional effective  date of January 1,  2025, if the                                                                    
     program is approved by the  US Department of Health and                                                                    
     Human Services.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Preston  relayed that  Section  39  through Section  42                                                                    
changed the  effective date and the  Department of Education                                                                    
and Early  Development (DEED) could  speak to the  change in                                                                    
more detail.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe requested that the committee hold                                                                       
questions until the end of the presentation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Preston  introduced the PowerPoint Presentation  "HB 89"                                                                    
dated January 24, 2024 (copy on  file). She began on slide 2                                                                    
and explained that  HB 89 addressed the  lack of affordable,                                                                    
quality child  care. She read  the following impacts  of the                                                                    
problem on slide 2:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        • Worsens labor shortages                                                                                             
        • Endangers children                                                                                                  
        • Undermines families' economic security                                                                              
        • Decreases workforce participation                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Preston  advanced to  slide 3 and  indicated that  HB 89                                                                    
provided a solution by strengthening  the child care sector,                                                                    
improving  access to  child care  for families,  and helping                                                                    
parents return  to the workforce.  She continued to  slide 4                                                                    
and  shared that  Alaska was  in a  childcare crisis  due to                                                                    
labor   shortages,  a   declining  number   of  child   care                                                                    
providers, and low wages.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Preston advanced  to slide  5 and  read the  approaches                                                                    
proposed in HB 89 to solve the problem:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Expands the number of families who can use child                                                                    
          care assistance                                                                                                       
        • Incentivizes tax breaks for employers to donate                                                                     
          to child care facilities                                                                                              
        • Increases the maximum tax credit                                                                                    
        • Aligns the assistance level to reflect the actual                                                                   
          cost of care                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Preston moved  to slide 6 and relayed  that according to                                                                    
the U.S.  Chamber of Commerce Foundation,  Alaska was losing                                                                    
$152  million   annually  due   to  employee   turnover  and                                                                    
absences. The child care crisis  was impacting the workforce                                                                    
as a whole,  not only families with children.  She read from                                                                    
the slide:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        • Currently, state rate is based on market rate                                                                       
          study.                                                                                                                
        • Alaska Department of Health is contracting with                                                                     
          McKinley Group to complete the study by July 31,                                                                      
          2024                                                                                                                  
        • Must be approved by the Federal Government                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe added  that  currently, the  market                                                                    
study  was based  on the  rates currently  charged by  child                                                                    
care providers,  but the revenue  was not enough  to sustain                                                                    
the  businesses. If  a child  care provider  charged parents                                                                    
for the  actual cost of  operation, parents would  be priced                                                                    
out  of  the market.  Businesses  struggled  to stay  afloat                                                                    
because income was lower than  expenses and part of her goal                                                                    
in the prior year was to  determine the actual cost of care.                                                                    
The contracting  with the McKinley  Group was  currently in-                                                                    
process and  the study completion  date had been  moved back                                                                    
to July 31,  2024. She suggested that  committee members may                                                                    
have  heard  that  the  governor  wanted  to  hold  back  on                                                                    
creating a  plan for child  care because he was  waiting for                                                                    
the results  of the study.  She understood that  the federal                                                                    
government  needed to  approve  the  methodology before  the                                                                    
study could move forward.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster noted that  Representative Hannan had joined                                                                    
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:46:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Preston explained  that  HB 89  solved  the child  care                                                                    
problem by changing the  eligibility requirements to receive                                                                    
assistance. Presently,  families making up to  85 percent of                                                                    
the  state  median  income  of  $60,144  were  eligible  for                                                                    
assistance. The  bill would raise the  eligibility threshold                                                                    
to  105 percent  of the  state median  income, changing  the                                                                    
cutoff to  an income of $73,920.  Most middle-class families                                                                    
in the state  were currently not able to  afford child care,                                                                    
but HB 89  would enable the department to  scale the subsidy                                                                    
level based on need. The  lack of affordable care equated to                                                                    
severe  labor shortages  in every  industry. The  bill would                                                                    
help  alleviate the  shortages by  expanding  the number  of                                                                    
families who  could afford care  and would make  it possible                                                                    
for  more Alaskans  to  return to  work.  Families who  were                                                                    
eligible for  assistance were not  required to  pay anything                                                                    
in excess  of 9 percent of  the family income, but  the bill                                                                    
would change the cap to 7 percent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe explained  that the system currently                                                                    
required  families to  pay copays  and assistance  would not                                                                    
cover the entire  child care bill. Not only  would the copay                                                                    
increase  for every  child, but  families had  to cover  the                                                                    
discrepancy  between the  amount of  money provided  through                                                                    
assistance and the actual cost of child care.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster noted  that  Representative Stanley  Wright                                                                    
and  Representative   Andrew  Gray   were  present   in  the                                                                    
audience.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Preston continued on slide  10 to explain how offsetting                                                                    
child  tax  credits  would  help   solve  the  problem.  The                                                                    
following entities would be able  to write off contributions                                                                    
to the child care sector:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        • State net income tax (corporate)                                                                                    
        • Mining License tax                                                                                                  
        • Fisheries Business Tax                                                                                              
        • Fishery Resource Landing Tax                                                                                        
        • Oil and Gas Production tax                                                                                          
        • Oil and Gas Property tax and Insurance tax                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe moved  to  slide  11 and  explained                                                                    
that she included information on  HB 223 in the presentation                                                                    
because it acted  as a background of what she  was trying to                                                                    
accomplish  with HB  89. The  educational  tax credits  were                                                                    
lowered in  2018 and  lowered again again  in 2019.  The cap                                                                    
could  be  seen on  the  slide  for  2018 through  2021;  it                                                                    
started at  $5 million in  2018, decreased to $1  million in                                                                    
2019,  and   remained  at  $1  million   through  2021.  She                                                                    
clarified that up to $1 million  could be written off for an                                                                    
educational  tax  credit.  She  relayed that  HB  233  would                                                                    
increase the  cap to $3  million. She thought  providing the                                                                    
chart on  HB 233 would help  provide some context for  HB 89                                                                    
because  the  tax credits  operated  the  same way  in  both                                                                    
bills. She recalled that  Representative Josephson had asked                                                                    
a  question in  the prior  year about  the local  taxes. She                                                                    
clarified  that it  was her  understanding  that the  credit                                                                    
would come exclusively from the state.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Preston concluded the presentation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  asked if  there  were  questions from  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:51:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if  a company could  simply pay                                                                    
for  its workers'  child  care  and add  it  as an  employee                                                                    
benefit while also receiving a tax credit for it.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe responded  in the  affirmative. The                                                                    
bill listed many  types of contributions such  as building a                                                                    
child care center, improving an  existing child care center,                                                                    
or raising funds to help cover child care costs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  appreciated the work of  the sponsor.                                                                    
She understood that entities already  paying a corporate tax                                                                    
would get  a credit.  She presumed that  families associated                                                                    
with eligible industries [listed on  slide 10] would have an                                                                    
increased opportunity to receive a  tax credit. She asked if                                                                    
there had  been discussion  about extending  the opportunity                                                                    
to other industries.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  responded she  was not  certain she                                                                    
could answer the question.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin  understood   that  the   number  of                                                                    
families  eligible for  assistance would  be increased.  She                                                                    
wondered if there was a way  to expand the number of "seats"                                                                    
for those who need child care.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  responded  that her  plan  was  to                                                                    
increase  the  capacity  of  the   child  care  industry  by                                                                    
incentivizing  the private  sector and  infusing funds  into                                                                    
the child care  industry. There was space in  the child care                                                                    
centers and there were empty  rooms in the buildings because                                                                    
the  centers could  not find  workers. Her  approach was  to                                                                    
motivate  the private  sector to  get involved  and increase                                                                    
funds to  the child  care industry  to start  increasing the                                                                    
number  of  children and  families  served.  There were  few                                                                    
child care centers that were  overpopulated and most centers                                                                    
were severely underattended.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin understood that  the state had come up                                                                    
with standards  for best practices  for child care.  She was                                                                    
aware that  the university  system had  a small  program for                                                                    
child care providers.  She wondered if there  were any other                                                                    
actions the  state could take  to address the  problem apart                                                                    
from increasing wages.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:56:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe noted  that  DOH recently  expanded                                                                    
the program for child care  providers and suggested that the                                                                    
department speak  to the details.  She heard  a presentation                                                                    
from  the University  of Alaska  Anchorage  (UAA) and  there                                                                    
were  many  scholarships  being  offered  to  help  students                                                                    
become  trained  and  earn higher  wages  due  to  acquiring                                                                    
advanced  training.  The  program  deteriorated  during  the                                                                    
COVID-19 pandemic, but  it was being built up  again. In any                                                                    
sector, an employee with more  training would receive higher                                                                    
wages and  many child care  centers hired employees  with no                                                                    
experience or training. Most centers  paid for the employees                                                                    
to receive training, which was  another financial burden for                                                                    
the centers. She was excited about the UAA program.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  thought   she  saw  something  about                                                                    
grants for highest quality child care centers.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  thought DOH could provide  a better                                                                    
response to  the question. She  relayed that there  would be                                                                    
financial incentives  through Thread  to "climb  the quality                                                                    
ladder."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reminded the  committee that testifiers were                                                                    
available to answer questions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp  had heard about child  care issues and                                                                    
thought that  Representative Coulombe had  worked tirelessly                                                                    
to solve  the problem. He  asked if  the task force  had any                                                                    
recommendations pertaining  to dependent care  accounts that                                                                    
allowed  individuals and  families to  contribute money  for                                                                    
child  care.  He  remarked that  a  dependent  care  account                                                                    
allowed individuals and families  to contribute up to $5,000                                                                    
for  the purpose  of child  care and  the contributions  had                                                                    
been capped at $5,000 for over a decade.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe responded  that she  did not  think                                                                    
the task  force addressed  the issue. She  thought it  was a                                                                    
great idea.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:01:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEAH  VAN KIRK,  HEALTH CARE  POLICY ADVISOR,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
HEALTH,  responded to  Representative  Stapp  that the  task                                                                    
force  had not  yet addressed  the issue.  There had  been a                                                                    
focus on  exploring employer-based  benefits and  there were                                                                    
currently  33 recommendations  in the  task force's  initial                                                                    
report submitted  on December  1, 2023.  The task  force was                                                                    
open  to   hearing  recommendations  and   hearing  interest                                                                    
specifically related to the issue.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp asked  if  there  were any  regulatory                                                                    
issues  that  DOH needed  to  address.  He wondered  if  any                                                                    
regulatory  issues  or  statutory  issues  were  serving  as                                                                    
impediments to licensing new child care facilities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe responded  in the affirmative. There                                                                    
were significant  regulatory recommendations, most  of which                                                                    
could come through  the department and would not  need to be                                                                    
changed  statutorily.  A  major   challenge  to  child  care                                                                    
facilities   was   licensing.   There  were   currently   no                                                                    
electronic  forms  on  the   department's  website  and  the                                                                    
process was difficult  to navigate. In order to  apply for a                                                                    
license, an  interested party needed  to print out  the form                                                                    
and put  it in the mail.  There were easy solutions  to many                                                                    
of the  problems and there were  many recommendations around                                                                    
licensing, background checks, and lack of online resources.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Van Kirk  added that during the first six  months of the                                                                    
meetings,  the task  force focused  on  the following  three                                                                    
recommendation    categories:   workforce,    employer-based                                                                    
programs,  and licensing.  The  task  force identified  many                                                                    
issues that  could be  easily addressed  through regulation.                                                                    
Some of the  ways in which the task force  could address the                                                                    
issues included the  methodology used when a  state rate was                                                                    
adopted,  child care  administrative  requirements, and  the                                                                    
training available through the university.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  thanked Representative  Coulombe  for                                                                    
her work on the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:05:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked if  the funding sources under                                                                    
the bill would continue the  child care development fund and                                                                    
add a tax credit to it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe responded in the affirmative.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  understood   that  the   forgone                                                                    
revenue was  in the range  of $4.7  million. He asked  if he                                                                    
was correct.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  responded that it was  difficult to                                                                    
predict  who  would  take  advantage  of  the  opportunities                                                                    
proposed by  the bill. The  educational tax  credits claimed                                                                    
within  ten  years were  $65  million  and contributions  to                                                                    
education were $97 million. She  emphasized that the process                                                                    
was  considered  a  slow build.  She  had  done  significant                                                                    
resource around  tax credits and the  various possibilities,                                                                    
and she  was hopeful that  participation would be  high. She                                                                    
opined that it was an investment in the state.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson was reminded  that at the height of                                                                    
the pandemic,  the state received  $22 million in  one year.                                                                    
He  wondered if  the money  in the  bill was  thought to  be                                                                    
significant  enough  to  improve  the problem  and  free  up                                                                    
sufficient resources  for parents  and for the  workforce to                                                                    
be paid adequately.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  responded that  the bill  would not                                                                    
fix everything  but that it was  a start. She did  not think                                                                    
that the comparison to the  pandemic was relevant as the $22                                                                    
million  infusion was  intended to  save child  care centers                                                                    
that were closing down. Her intention  was for there to be a                                                                    
slow investment  building over  a long  period of  time. She                                                                    
relayed  that even  with the  $22  million investment,  many                                                                    
child  care  centers had  to  close.  Involving the  private                                                                    
sector and increasing access would  lead to a better outcome                                                                    
than throwing a significant amount of money at a problem.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz asked  if the task force  had looked at                                                                    
programs  in   other  states  and  how   other  states  were                                                                    
addressing the problem.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Van  Kirk responded in  the affirmative. The  task force                                                                    
also  met with  the federal  Office of  Child Care  to learn                                                                    
what was  happening on  a national level  that was  making a                                                                    
difference  in  other states.  The  task  force had  engaged                                                                    
local,  state,  and national  partners  to  help inform  its                                                                    
decisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz explained  that he was able to  go to a                                                                    
national  legislators  conference  a  few  years  prior  and                                                                    
learned  about a  model in  another state  to improve  child                                                                    
care.  The plan  was a  different model  based on  the state                                                                    
providing   resources  to   businesses   to  subsidize   the                                                                    
businesses  and   use  resources   to  further   entice  new                                                                    
employees through the cash subsidies  provided by the state.                                                                    
He understood that  the proposal in the bill was  based on a                                                                    
tax credit model. He asked if  there was a measurement as to                                                                    
how much of an impact the  tax credit route would "cover the                                                                    
issue" in  relationship to child  care needs in  Alaska. For                                                                    
example, he  was confused as  to how the  fisheries resource                                                                    
landing tax credit  would work. He asked how  big the bill's                                                                    
impact  would be  on  the overall  problem  and wondered  if                                                                    
there was an estimate.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe was  not  certain  what the  impact                                                                    
would  be. She  was unsure  of any  other way  to develop  a                                                                    
sustainable  model  other  than  by  involving  the  private                                                                    
sector, which was  one of the priorities of  the task force.                                                                    
Private businesses needed  to understand that it  would be a                                                                    
benefit to workers.  She was trying to shift  the mindset of                                                                    
the private sector.  The bill also established  a program to                                                                    
partner with private sector entities  which would appoint an                                                                    
individual to help the private  sector understand how to set                                                                    
up a child  care center and how to receive  benefits to help                                                                    
pay for child care for the  workers. She thought it was more                                                                    
of a  mindset shift  and the  first step  towards addressing                                                                    
the problem.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:13:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz  appreciated  Representative  Coulombe                                                                    
bringing the  bill forward and clarified  that his questions                                                                    
were not  intended to discredit  her efforts.  He understood                                                                    
that the fiscal note stated  that the bill would cost either                                                                    
$194  million  or  $194,000.  He   asked  which  figure  was                                                                    
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  suggested that  Ms. Van  Kirk speak                                                                    
to the fiscal note.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Van Kirk  explained that the fiscal note  referred to by                                                                    
Representative  Ortiz was  not the  most recent  version and                                                                    
there would  be an  updated fiscal  note which  would assess                                                                    
the  committee substitute.  She  indicated  that the  fiscal                                                                    
note would be available publicly after the meeting.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  clarified that it was  $194,000 not                                                                    
$194 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz understood  that  it was  the cost  to                                                                    
provide staff within the state to implement the program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Van Kirk responded in the affirmative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  explained that the fiscal  note was                                                                    
the  only note  she could  get because  it was  difficult to                                                                    
determine   the  impact   of  the   subsidy.  There   was  a                                                                    
forthcoming fiscal note  but it could not  be released until                                                                    
the committee substitute was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked Ms.  Van Kirk what  the vacancy                                                                    
rate  was in  the child  care licensing  office and  whether                                                                    
there  had  been high  turnover  rates.  Skilled staff  were                                                                    
needed  in  order  to  help  anyone  through  the  licensure                                                                    
process. She thought  it was important to  ensure that there                                                                    
were enough  employees to process  the licenses if  the bill                                                                    
were to pass.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Van Kirk  responded that  she  could not  speak to  the                                                                    
specific vacancy  rate of the  child care  licensing office,                                                                    
but  the leadership  and  managers at  the  office had  been                                                                    
consistent    for    many     years.    Administering    the                                                                    
recommendations in the bill would require additional staff.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe noted  that Anchorage  had its  own                                                                    
licensing  office  and  although there  were  no  vacancies,                                                                    
there had  been significant turnover  in the last  few years                                                                    
and there  was some  inexperience in  the office.  The state                                                                    
licensing office  had been  at the  task force  meetings and                                                                    
there was no talk of  significant vacancies within the state                                                                    
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:17:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon appreciated  the  work that  Representative                                                                    
Coulombe  and  her  staff  had   put  in  to  the  bill.  He                                                                    
understood that  the task  force had  not finished  its work                                                                    
and  that  the  bill  and the  task  force  were  separately                                                                    
addressing  the  same  issue.  He  asked  if  he  understood                                                                    
correctly.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe  replied that  the  recommendations                                                                    
were specifically  proposed in  the initial  report released                                                                    
by  the  task  force.  There were  more  recommendations  in                                                                    
addition to  the ones  in the  first report.  She emphasized                                                                    
that the recommendations  in the bill were  in-line with the                                                                    
recommendations proposed  by the task force.  There would be                                                                    
a second report with updated recommendations.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Van Kirk  responded that  the task  force had  examined                                                                    
many  specific and  broad areas  over the  past six  months.                                                                    
There had been  15 meetings with presenters  at almost every                                                                    
meeting and many of the  recommendations in the first report                                                                    
were included in the bill.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon remarked that  many legislators had attended                                                                    
events within  the state and  outside of the state  to learn                                                                    
what  other states  were  doing to  improve  child care.  He                                                                    
noted  that   the  systems  in   other  states   were  well-                                                                    
established, including relationships  with federal agencies,                                                                    
modeling, and state funding streams.  He asked if it was the                                                                    
eventual  direction  the  task  force  would  bring  to  the                                                                    
legislature  in terms  of  building on  what  Alaska had  in                                                                    
place. He understood  that it was difficult to  make a child                                                                    
care  center work  without state  assistance. He  asked what                                                                    
the long term goal was for the task force.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Van  Kirk responded  that when the  task force  made its                                                                    
final  recommendations, there  would  be many  multi-faceted                                                                    
approaches to child care in  the state. The approaches would                                                                    
include  a  combination  of  federal  and  state  resources,                                                                    
regulatory   changes,   and    partnerships   with   private                                                                    
businesses and organizations. She  found it encouraging that                                                                    
many Alaskans  were interested in  the solution,  even those                                                                    
Alaskans  without  children.  The   task  force  office  had                                                                    
received many  calls from employers  asking what  they could                                                                    
do  to  support the  workforce  in  Alaska. She  anticipated                                                                    
there being  a broad  approach to how  the task  force could                                                                    
address some of the issues with child care.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:22:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Edgmon noted  that broadband  was  also coming  to                                                                    
mind  because  it  was  not  economically  feasible  without                                                                    
assistance from the  federal government. He asked  if it was                                                                    
the sponsor's goal that the  state put together a model that                                                                    
involved  the private  sector but  also involved  government                                                                    
assistance in order to make  child care centers economically                                                                    
viable.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe responded  in the  affirmative. She                                                                    
saw a  big opportunity to  get the private  sector involved.                                                                    
She  noted that  it was  important  to see  what other  fund                                                                    
sources  would come  into  play once  the  final report  was                                                                    
released by  the task force.  The governor had said  that he                                                                    
was holding off  on doing anything major on  the state level                                                                    
until the final report was  released. She had looked at many                                                                    
other states and  how the states were  addressing child care                                                                    
problems,  but many  solutions that  worked in  other states                                                                    
were unlikely  to work in Alaska.  She was unable to  find a                                                                    
model in another state that  would work in Alaska unchanged.                                                                    
The  rural  and urban  divide  and  small population  was  a                                                                    
significant  factor in  the state.  Some  other states  were                                                                    
putting  hundreds of  millions of  dollars into  child care,                                                                    
but those states  had different industries and  did not have                                                                    
a budget as volatile as  Alaska's budget. The task force had                                                                    
been examining  other models and trying  to implement pieces                                                                    
that  would  work  in  Alaska. Once  the  final  report  was                                                                    
released, it would be easier  to determine whether the state                                                                    
or  the federal  government should  be providing  assistance                                                                    
and what the communities could do to help.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon understood that  the bill changed "day care"                                                                    
to "child  care." He  thought the  definition of  child care                                                                    
could be  applied to  a number of  activities, such  as pre-                                                                    
natal  visits  and  early  intervention.  He  asked  if  the                                                                    
definition  of  child care  was  as  all-encompassing as  it                                                                    
needed to be  or would the definition broaden  once the task                                                                    
force had completed its work.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:25:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe   explained  that   the  definition                                                                    
change from day care to child  care came from the child care                                                                    
sector. Many  child care providers felt  disrespected due to                                                                    
low wages and  lack of training. The change  was an offering                                                                    
of  respect  to workers  in  the  industry. The  task  force                                                                    
discussed  at  length what  could  be  done to  elevate  the                                                                    
profession  of child  care, and  terminology was  important.                                                                    
She  presumed  that  the term  would  eventually  evolve  to                                                                    
"early childhood education."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  further OBJECTION,  Work Draft  33-LS0518\S                                                                    
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  relayed that the committee  would hear from                                                                    
invited testifiers on HB 89.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:28:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEN GRIFFIS,  VICE PRESIDENT OF POLICY  AND ADVOCACY, ALASKA                                                                    
CHILDREN'S TRUST (via  teleconference), testified in support                                                                    
of HB  89. She  explained that  the Alaska  Children's Trust                                                                    
focused on  the prevention of  child abuse and  neglect. The                                                                    
trust  supported policies  that increased  economic security                                                                    
for  families  and  provided  foundational  early  education                                                                    
support for children,  and HB 89 would  accomplish both. The                                                                    
average family  in Alaska was currently  spending 15 percent                                                                    
to 30 percent of the household  income on child care, and 51                                                                    
percent of families  reported that a parent  could not fully                                                                    
participate  in the  work force  due to  child care  issues.                                                                    
Alaska  was ranked  forty-fourth in  the nation  in economic                                                                    
well-being  and 34  percent  of children  in  the state  had                                                                    
parents who  lacked secure  employment. She  emphasized that                                                                    
HB 89  would increase the  eligibility limit for  child care                                                                    
which would  allow more families to  access affordable child                                                                    
care  and  provide the  opportunity  to  participate in  the                                                                    
workforce  to more  parents. Parents  able to  access proper                                                                    
child care  reported reduced  stress and  increased economic                                                                    
stability, which  were both vital factors  in decreasing the                                                                    
risk  of  child  abuse  and   neglect.  Quality  child  care                                                                    
increased  children's readiness  for school  and eventually,                                                                    
the work force.  She noted that although the  bill would not                                                                    
solve  all  problems  related  to  child  care,  it  was  an                                                                    
important step forward. She urged support for HB 89.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:30:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JESSICA PARKER,  SUPERINTENDENT, LITTLE MOUNTAIN  MOVERS AND                                                                    
MOUNTAIN   CITY  CHRISTIAN   SCHOOL  (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in support  of HB  89. She  relayed that  she had                                                                    
seen the struggles  of inadequate child care  at the schools                                                                    
for  which she  was superintendent,  Little Mountain  Movers                                                                    
and  Mountain City  Christian School.  The increased  demand                                                                    
for child  care had resulted  in a massive waiting  list for                                                                    
the schools.  The existing regulations limited  the capacity                                                                    
of the schools to  efficiently staff and provide appropriate                                                                    
space for  children. There were only  three remaining infant                                                                    
care  programs  in  Anchorage  as more  and  more  day  care                                                                    
centers were forced to close  due to strict requirements and                                                                    
a  reduction  in  grant opportunities.  The  schools  had  a                                                                    
capacity of 120 children and she  would like to extend it to                                                                    
300 children.  There was a  waitlist of 88 children  but due                                                                    
to staffing  ratios, it  was cost adverse  to open  up space                                                                    
for the  children on  the waitlist. She  thought that  HB 89                                                                    
would  bring  much  needed  relief   by  changing  day  care                                                                    
assistance and the child care  grant program. The bill would                                                                    
recognize the diverse needs of  the child care facilities in                                                                    
the state. She  applauded the legislature for  taking up the                                                                    
bill which  would have  a positive impact  on child  care in                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:33:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEPHANIE    BERGLUND,   CEO,    THREAD,   ANCHORAGE    (via                                                                    
teleconference), explained that Thread  was a nonprofit that                                                                    
provided   statewide  services   to  strengthen   access  to                                                                    
affordable and high-quality education  with a focus on child                                                                    
care.  She  shared  that  Thread  served  more  than  10,000                                                                    
families,  2,000 early  educators, and  430 early  childhood                                                                    
programs every  year. Child  care had  always been  a sector                                                                    
with institutional  challenges, but the challenges  had been                                                                    
increasing in recent  years. Since 2020, over  25 percent of                                                                    
licensed child  care programs  in the  state had  closed and                                                                    
the child  care workforce  was struggling  due to  low wages                                                                    
and often few  benefits. Fewer families were  able to access                                                                    
affordable and quality child care services.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Berglund continued  that businesses  were  not able  to                                                                    
recruit and  retain quality employees due  to struggles with                                                                    
child care  and employees  felt unable to  fully participate                                                                    
in  the   workforce.  The  most  recent   data  showed  that                                                                    
businesses  were  greatly  impacted by  families  struggling                                                                    
with  child  care, including  poor  attendance  and loss  in                                                                    
productivities.  Lack  of  quality child  care  was  costing                                                                    
businesses  an estimated  $152 million  per year.  Employees                                                                    
were not  able to achieve  their goals or contribute  to the                                                                    
economy without quality child care.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Berglund argued that HB  89 would support child care and                                                                    
strengthen  the subsidy  program. There  were many  areas of                                                                    
child care  that still needed  to be improved upon,  but the                                                                    
bill would  be a start.  She remarked that too  few families                                                                    
participated in  the child  care assistance  program because                                                                    
many families  could not qualify  or access  resources under                                                                    
the  current  structure.  Even if  families  were  receiving                                                                    
assistance, they  were still required to  pay the difference                                                                    
between  the  assistance received  and  the  actual cost  of                                                                    
child care, which was still unaffordable for many families.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Berglund shared that in  2023, Thread partnered with the                                                                    
McKinley Group  to conduct a  statewide household  survey to                                                                    
collect   information  about   child   care  directly   from                                                                    
families.  She  relayed that  585  families  with over  1000                                                                    
children  were  surveyed.  She shared  that  74  percent  of                                                                    
respondents reported that the  highest barrier to child care                                                                    
was the lack  of providers, followed by cost  at 60 percent.                                                                    
Families in urban  areas cited cost as a  higher factor than                                                                    
families  in rural  areas. Over  half  of families  reported                                                                    
that the ability of household  members to remain employed or                                                                    
work more  hours was impacted  by the availability  of child                                                                    
care.  In  2019,  only  22   percent  of  families  surveyed                                                                    
reported that child care was  a barrier to being employed or                                                                    
working  more  hours.  Child  care  was  expensive  and  had                                                                    
outpaced inflation  over the last  few years.  Quality child                                                                    
care  was  expensive to  provide  and  expanded support  was                                                                    
needed for  low-income families.  The bill would  allow more                                                                    
families  to  qualify for  assistance  and  thus allow  more                                                                    
families to  participate in child care.  Child care policies                                                                    
and child  care reimbursement rates were  currently based on                                                                    
the  market rates  and did  not  consider the  true cost  of                                                                    
care, which  made it  an unstable  foundation for  the child                                                                    
care system. Thread was encouraged  to see increased studies                                                                    
and research and was looking  forward to seeing the research                                                                    
inform new policies. She relayed  that Thread was pleased to                                                                    
endorse  HB  89 and  to  encourage  legislators to  consider                                                                    
other  policies  that  would reduce  child  care  costs  for                                                                    
parents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:40:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked   whether  Thread  offered  its                                                                    
employees  a  dependent  care  account  through  a  flexible                                                                    
spending account (FSA).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Berglund responded  in the  negative. She  relayed that                                                                    
Thread offered paid family leave.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   understood   that   the   state                                                                    
contribution in the prior year  was $7.5 million. He assumed                                                                    
that  none   of  the  funds   had  lapsed  and   were  spent                                                                    
purposefully. He asked  if Ms. Berglund knew  at which point                                                                    
in  the  fiscal  year  the  money  had  been  spent  in  its                                                                    
entirety.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Berglund  replied that that  the department  could offer                                                                    
more specific  figures. She noted that  Thread had partnered                                                                    
with the state  for child care improvements and  some of the                                                                    
remaining federal pandemic relief  dollars were in the final                                                                    
year  of  spending.  Thread  was  in  the  final  stages  of                                                                    
planning  and  executing some  final  grants  to child  care                                                                    
programs as  there was an  open grant opportunity  for child                                                                    
care called the  Focus on Child Care Grant.  The focus grant                                                                    
would  be the  last broad-based,  non-competitive grant  for                                                                    
all child care programs to receive federal relief dollars.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  commented that he liked  the bill.                                                                    
He  was  concerned  that  the  goal was  to  return  to  the                                                                    
previous "normal"  for a state  direct subsidy  while adding                                                                    
tax credits.  He presumed that it  was in the $6  million to                                                                    
$7 million  dollar range per year  and he asked how  far the                                                                    
money could go.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Berglund responded that the  department would be able to                                                                    
respond to the question in more detail.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  reminded  interested  individuals  how  to                                                                    
submit written testimony.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:44:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYANA  GARCIA-DELACRUZ,  PROGRAM   DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  EARLY                                                                    
CHILDHOOD ADVOCACY GROUP  (via teleconference), testified in                                                                    
support  of HB  89.  She  was testifying  on  behalf of  the                                                                    
Alaska Early Childhood Advocacy Group,  which was a group of                                                                    
nine nonprofits  across the state  that had  joined together                                                                    
to  advocate  for  increased investment  in  child  care  in                                                                    
Alaska. Over  51 percent of families  were not participating                                                                    
in the workforce  to the desired extent because  of the lack                                                                    
of child  care. The average  child care worker  made $29,500                                                                    
per year  which was less  than a gas station  attendant. The                                                                    
average Alaska family  paid 15 percent to 20  percent of its                                                                    
income to child care. The  bill would not fix everything but                                                                    
it  was a  step in  the right  direction through  increasing                                                                    
access  and eligibility  for  assistance.  The business  tax                                                                    
credits would  encourage businesses to invest  in child care                                                                    
options for  employees. She  urged support  for HB  89 which                                                                    
she felt was an  important step toward transforming Alaska's                                                                    
child  care sector,  supporting children  and families,  and                                                                    
benefiting the economy.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:46:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KARI  SAGEL,   DIRECTOR,  EARLY  CHILDHOOD   COALITION  (via                                                                    
teleconference), testified in support  of HB 89. She relayed                                                                    
that the Early Childhood Coalition  was in favor of anything                                                                    
that  reduced   the  burden  on  families   and  child  care                                                                    
providers   and   increased   access  to   early   childhood                                                                    
education. Quality child care  prepared children to be ready                                                                    
for  kindergarten and  allowed families  to make  employment                                                                    
choices  that  benefited  family  members  as  well  as  the                                                                    
community. The  bill would increase stability  for providers                                                                    
and families. There was a  recent focus group that concluded                                                                    
that  early childhood  inequities continued  to grow  and it                                                                    
was  important to  address the  inequities. The  free market                                                                    
was  not  a  viable  economic  system  for  child  care  and                                                                    
required  municipal,  federal, and  employer  contributions.                                                                    
She urged support for HB 89.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  89  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:49:41 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:55:16 PM                                                                                                                    
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Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 89 Summary of Changes v.B to V.S 012524.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 CS WorkDraft HFIN v.S 010324.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Sectional Analysis v.S 012524.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Sponsor Statement v.S 012524.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Presentation v.S 012424 (2).pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Public Testimony Rec'd by 012425.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 89
2024 01 25 HFIN HB 50 DNR CCUS Recap Presentation.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 CS WorkDraft FIN v.R 012224.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 89 TFCC-Recommendations 112023.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 89
HB 89 Presentation v.S 012424 (3).pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 89
HB050 Summary of Changes version U to R 1.24.24.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 DNR Responses to HFIN Questions on 012524 2024 02 14.pdf HFIN 1/25/2024 1:30:00 PM
HB 50